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thirteenthchime
03:28 am - I'm not going to be your monkey
Jon Stewart on Crossfire

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From:rwhip923
Date:October 17th, 2004 01:07 am (UTC)
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It was an interesting appearance to say the least...but I think Jon took it a bit too far. And calling Tucker a dick was not cool in my book.
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From:elvellyn
Date:October 17th, 2004 02:07 am (UTC)
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I concur. It started out funny.. I can't say I didn't laugh because I did, but I think Jon got a little too personal there near the end of it all. Good debates are always enjoyable, personal attacks are not. Just my opinion.
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From:thirteenthchime
Date:October 17th, 2004 08:28 am (UTC)
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I don't think the hosts were expecting it. They kept on trying to box him in as the comedian, offering set up lines and cracking jokes about him not being funny. He was being dead serious and wasn't being taken seriously. So he responded to Carlson's baiting with a straightforward opinion. Regardless of his behavior, you can't argue that he didn't bring up a very good point. I like Crossfire but have been watching it less and less. It is all set up, they don't really debate the issues- they use artful techniques to skirt around and make their opponents seem idiotic. Half of the time in a heated debate, the hosts will attack the speaker, and that's no better than Jon Stewart calling Tucker Carlson a dick ( and much, much less funny). What is the role of the news media in a democracy? A vital one. And like Stewart says, what does it say about our media when they're turning to a satire show for cues? What does that say about the state of our democracy?

While honestly I think that Crossfire is much better than some other "debate" shows ::cough Hannity:: the point had to be made. I think the point in crucifying Crossfire pundits on their own turf was to a.) approach that audience and b.) make them re-evaluate the show and the informaiton presented within.
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From:rockpopple
Date:October 18th, 2004 10:56 pm (UTC)
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Agreed. Jon Stewart owned Tucker, and to a lesser extent, Begala. Sterwart wasn't just targeting Crossfire, but all the supposed News media.

Let me ask anyone, when was the last time you heard a reporter say "Mr. Senator," or "Mr. President, that's not what I asked you. Please answer the question."

It should happen a hell of a lot more than it is now. Instead we get talking point after talking point. Sterwart's observation of the inherent evil of "Spin Alley" is dead on. After hearing a "debate" on the issue (read: duel campaign speeches), where does the media take us? Into rooms where both campaigns continue to lie to us and dish out more talking points. Ridiculous.

Jon Stewart is the man, and Tucker is a dick.
From:1handle
Date:October 20th, 2004 07:54 am (UTC)
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to be fair, Tucker did call Jon a 'buttboy.' That was before the 'Dick' comment. Hmm. Maybe Jon was comparing Tucker to the VP? To Richard Nixon?
From:senomar
Date:October 22nd, 2004 09:13 am (UTC)
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Personally, I found it to be great. Jon used the show as an open forum, something that he is far too restrained by his comedic requirements on The Daily Show to do, and succeeded in getting his message out. I'm glad that he did that. He essentially hijacked their show, and not only did it put a smile on my face, it opened peoples' eyes.

I'm sorry that I'm not in this community. I'll consider joining, though.
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From:die_olsen_twins
Date:November 4th, 2004 10:06 pm (UTC)
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Really people, let's not beat around the bush (haha). Jon Stewart took them kids to school. They didn't even know what hit em. I must, however, applaud them for not bursting into tears on the spot. Kudos to Tucker and Paul.
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From:doubtful_salmon
Date:November 22nd, 2004 02:16 am (UTC)
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Like three weeks later but this comment cracked me up.
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From:die_olsen_twins
Date:November 22nd, 2004 03:07 am (UTC)
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thanx

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